not only did jill kelley do it. but kind of dangling in the headline, just hike jill kelley, eyes come back dn guess who kirtz would like to get the story from, i did kelly and paula broadwell. and paula you're the big get. don't think oprah, don't think katie couric, think me. >> i have to defend howard, and he's done good journalism. if people have issues with this story, okay. don't smear his whole career, a respected reporter and you can take issue with this, but i don't think his motives are impure. >> jon: point taken. and let's talk about somebody else, manti te'o, the fake girlfriend hoax took a turn this week and more who was behind this hoax and he took his story to katie couric. >> katie, put yourself in my situation, my whole world told me that she died on september 12th. everybody knew that. this girl, who i committed myself to, died on september the 12th. and now, i get a phone call on december 6th saying that she's alive and i'll be put on tv two days later and asked the same question, what would you